onionjulius said: Hey chica, hope your holiday is going well/went well. Do you by chance know the extent of House Lannister's debts to date?
Thanks, doing good. :) And House Lannister is not in debt currently. Unlike what the show said (I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be referring to it though?) the Westerlands mines are not remotely empty and House Lannister remains very very rich.
The crown is heavily in debt, however. And though the crown is currently run by members of House Lannister and their vassals, it is not actually part of the house, and their accounts are separate. In fact, the crown owes a great amount to the Lannisters, among others:
Grand Maester Pycelle looked to Littlefinger and asked, “Will the treasury bear the expense?”
“What treasury is that?” Littlefinger replied with a twist of his mouth. “Spare me the foolishness, Maester. You know as well as I that the treasury has been empty for years. I shall have to borrow the money. No doubt the Lannisters will be accommodating. We owe Lord Tywin some three million dragons at present, what matter another hundred thousand?”
Ned was stunned. “Are you claiming that the Crown is three million gold pieces in debt?”
“The Crown is more than six million gold pieces in debt, Lord Stark. The Lannisters are the biggest part of it, but we have also borrowed from Lord Tyrell, the Iron Bank of Braavos, and several Tyroshi trading cartels. Of late I’ve had to turn to the Faith.”
—AGOT, Eddard IV
Note even after his grandson was on the throne, Tywin still had no desire whatsoever to release the crown’s debts:
“Robert was as generous with his coin as he was with his cock. Littlefinger borrowed heavily. From you, amongst others. Yes, the incomes are considerable, but they are barely sufficient to cover the usury on Littlefinger’s loans. Will you forgive the throne’s debt to House Lannister?”
“Don’t be absurd.”
—ASOS, Tyrion IV
Now, as of AFFC, Cersei Lannister was able to get the Faith to forgive what the crown owed them, nearly 1 million gold, in exchange for revoking the 250-year-old ban on the Faith Militant. (To her eventual dismay.) She also refused to make any payments on the debt owed to the Iron Bank of Braavos, causing them to refuse any new Westerosi loans, demand immediate repayment of loans from all over Westeros, and fund the Iron Throne’s enemies. (Again, to her dismay.) But again, this is the crown’s debt, not that of House Lannister.
That said, in ADWD Tyrion did make a promise of gold to the Second Sons mercenary company so that he could join them, signing bearer bonds drawing on his (currently inaccessible) Lannister accounts and as his (legally questionable) status as Lord of Casterly Rock. That in total was a promise of approximately 150,000 gold, plus lands, a castle, and a lordship. So I suppose those could be considered House Lannister’s debts, though whether they’ll ever be collected is a very good question.
But if you’re asking about figurative debts that the Lannisters intend to pay, I couldn’t tell you offhand. Though if you wanted, I could do a search for every time their catchphrase is mentioned and figure out who’s still needing payback of one form or another. :)
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Can we talk about this? They have an engagement photo! Rumple has a shit eating grin and Belle looks slightly nervous but holy shit. They’re happy and adorable.
(Source: fairytaleasoldastime, via rumplestiltskin)